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Welcome to our weekly Weekly Burn & Turn, where we discuss the latest poker updates published during the week.

Vidcast for the week of: Sunday, October 25, 2015

The One With the Poker Masks

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If you would like to read the articles discussed in our vidcast, please see the links below!

(1:05) 6 Tips to Keep Your Edge in Live Multi-Day Major Poker Tournaments

(6:18) The Power of Pierre: Why a WSOP Win for Neuville is Poker’s Best Bet

(9:20) The Year the Poker Hall of Fame Got it Right

(14:02) The Most Memorable Televised Poker Hand of All Time

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On this week’s episode of the Weekly Burn & Turn we give you six tips for live multi-day poker tournaments. We’ll also talk about Phil Neuville, the November Niner, and his chances at the World Series Of Poker Main Event Final Table. We also have a great discussion about the Poker Hall of Fame inductees, John Juanda & Jennifer Harman and potential snubs. We end off with the Championship Match of our Most Memorable Televised Poker Hand bracket between Ernest Wiggins and Phil Hellmuth on the one hand, and Justin Phillips with his Royal Flush on the other hand. Coming up, right after this.

Welcome back everybody, to another riveting episode of the Weekly Burn & Turn for the week of October 25th, 2015. I’m Robbie Strazynski.

And I’m Shimi Weiss.

We’re here to bring you, yet again, some excellent poker entertainment. So, are you ready?

Absolutely. Let’s go!

We’re going to jump into the first topic. It’s a strategy piece by James Guill. Sorry, it’s not James Guill. It’s actually David Huber, but we’ll get to James soon.

We are off to a smashing start.

I’m sure James knows his strategy too, but David wrote this nice piece: 6 tips to keep your edge in live multi-day major poker tournaments.

Those are marathons. You’ve got to really be ready to get in there and keep your head about you.

For sure. What I liked about the tips that he presented is that a lot of them were about your mental game, and physical preparedness. The first thing is to be ready to go. Sounds like kind of dumb because of course you’re going to be ready to go. You go up to the cage and you pay your money and that sort of thing, then when you sit down for the first time you have to be mentally ready to go. Be psyched, be pumped.

It’s like you’re coming out on stage, you have to be ready for it. You have to know what you’re getting into and be mentally prepared for it.

100%. Have your A Game on. You know you’re going to be sitting for a very long grind. You don’t want to be amped up on too much coffee and caffeine. You just want to be ready like, okay, this is what I’m going to be doing and I am planning to make the final table and planning to win this. I’m not going to win this in one hand, that’s not going to happen.

You just have to remember that this really is a marathon. You’re going for a couple of days here so you need to pace yourself and be prepared for that long call. This is not just a standard game where you’re going to be done in two hours. You’re going to be there for the whole day and hopefully even more past that.

Exactly, and one of the other tips that David gives is to come back refreshed. That’s exactly the point. When you get to the end of the first day and you bag and tag your chips, get a good night’s sleep. Don’t go out and party, don’t go drinking.

Don’t hang out with friends. Get sleep! The best thing you can do for yourself is to come well rested. You’re tired, you’re not going to be able to managed it.

Exactly. I mean, you don’t have to go straight to bed obviously but just chill, watch something interesting, call a friend, something like that, but don’t do anything that’s going to take your mind off the poker game you just played.

It might seem straightforward but a big important thing is to shower before you go to sleep.

Do you not shower, Shimi?

With something specific like this, you don’t realize that when you’re on sleep deprivation and when you’re really that physically tired, getting a shower right before you sleep is going to allow you to sleep deeper. When you wake up you’re going to be much more rested. It adds two hours to your sleep.


I am not making up that statistic. That is a fact statistic that I thought of right now.

How long is your shower, Shimi?

It depends on how tired you are when you get into the shower. for showering tips. Because you don’t want to hit the showers too early, right?

There you go. I mean there are some players that play the strategy of not showering to mess with the other players at the table. I personally don’t like that but I’ve been at the table with players who do that.

Can’t get a seat change.

You just have to lean back.

That’s more about physical preparedness I guess, but something that you can control beyond the hygienic aspect is your stamina, your physical stamina to be able to sit for hours at a time. You don’t want to be eating junk or drinking too many soft drinks because you’re just going to get tired and withered, to quote Jason Somerville on those things. You want to be mentally tough and physically tough, so a lot of professional poker players have adopted really amazing diets. They’ve gone vegetarian, or adopted high-protein diets, and they’re always working out at the gym.

You don’t realize how draining it is physically to just be sitting there. You’ve got to be prepared for this when you come in. From a strategic perspective you also need to be prepared. You’re going to be there for a long time, this is not a one-hand tournament.

Well, you want to be there.

You need to know to pace yourself. Every single pro will say that you’ve got to control the pots. You don’t want to be going all in, statistically, you’re going to bust. You’re there for that many hands that you want to avoid big pots and gradually increase your chips.

But do not avoid the showers!

No, do not avoid the showers.

It is World Series time.

Go Mets!

Not that World Series! Not that I’m rooting for Kansas City, I couldn’t care less.

Kansas City is nice also, but, The Mets!

The only World Series that we really, really care about at the is the World Series Of Poker, and it’s almost time for the November Nine! Just a couple of days away.

This is very exciting! I love the Final 9 that are going into this. It’s a great selection.

Well, I mean, they advanced.

Well yes, but what I mean to say is that it’s not the standard everyone’s twenty years old kind of thing.

Yes! We have senior citizens, and that’s the next article we’re going to be talking about here: The Power of Pierre: Why a WSOP Win for Neuville is Poker’s Best bet. This is an op-ed that one of our great writers, Jennifer Newell, wrote. She’s never met him before, but wow, what an amazing piece.

I’m rooting for him just from reading this article. He sounds like an upstanding guy. I hope he got the senior citizen’s discount when he bought into the tournament.

Well I don’t know if they have the AARP Card in Belgium, which is where he’s from. One of the amazing things is, first of all, there were over 6,000 players and you have a 72 year old man who made it to the final 9. I guess he’s very happy that he got a 4 month break now.

72 years old! That’s more than the two of us put together.

Yes it is.

I can do quick math.

Pierre Neuville makes the final table, and what a story this guy has got. It’s not like he’s been playing his entire life professionally. He has been playing since 1957.

He stopped for a while though.

He stopped for a long while. He’s an executive at Hasbro, the toy maker. He founded the company, then sold it and remained as an executive. I guess because of public image he couldn’t go and play poker events. He had some ill health, went to the hospital, and I guess that’s when he decided (around 8 years ago) that it’s time to chill. He found himself a home playing in all the EPT events.

He’s been doing an amazing job. He’s been ripping up the felt.

He’s qualified time after time through these online qualifiers to play in these big EPT events. Last year, as a matter of fact, at the European Poker Awards Pierre Neuville won the Lifetime Achievement Award. That’s when he said that he hopes the best is yet to come, and then goes on to make the November Nine. We always talk about getting new people in poker, and more women in poker, imagine getting that senior citizen population. Oh look, the 72 year old, what a story!

It’s amazing for everyone to see, also. It’s really such an accomplishment. He’s sitting in the fourth highest chip stack, is that right? Can they hear the thunder right now?

I don’t know if you can hear the thunder right now but we’re in the midst of a storm right here.

Torrential downpour. It was thunder because of the excitement we have here.

Well maybe it’s a sign that Pierre Neuville may win the World Series.

Well we’ll be rooting for him. Robbie, are you in on this?

I have to say that I have a bit of a soft spot for Ofer Zvi Stern, my countryman, but definitely a great final table. Pierre Neuville is definitely a great potential winner of this main event, we’ll see what happens. You’ve got to tune in to that world series. Also related to the WSOP, the WSOP Organization owns the Poker Hall of Fame.

This has been a little bit of a hot topic.

Touchy subject for some. The big news, first of all, congratulations to John Juanda and Jennifer harman. Two incredibly deserving inductees to the Hall of Fame.

I’m really excited for them, and well deserved. Both of them are extremely accomplished. It’s very exciting to see that they got inducted.

And they continue to accomplished. A few episodes ago we were talking about John Juanda when he won another EPT event. These guys keep on winning. And Jennifer Harman, playing in the highest stakes cash games around.

Great faces for poker, also.

They’ve always been ambassadors. Great people, you can’t fault their induction. The poker media is going insane about this, who’s deserving and who got snubbed, etc. It’s the kind of thing that seems to happen every year.

Let’s just go and say it.

Potential snub is Dave “Devilfish” Ulliott who unfortunately passed away over the past year, and there was a lot of sentiment that maybe he’ll get voted into the Hall of Fame this year.

It’s a bit of a touchy subject.

What can you say, I mean, the man was also an incredible poker player, and incredible ambassador. You think of the UK poker scene, you think of the Devilfish. He’s on TV, he had those special rings spelling out Devil and Fish on his knuckles. He was an incredible personality and there’s no question that he is deserving of nomination, for sure.

It’s an honor just getting the nomination, and I think it’s a little bit unfair to say that he has to win in order to honor him,

Right, it’s not a matter of sentiment. There are criteria that players have to meet. Not that he’s not an accomplished player, by any means.

No disrespect to him. He’s a tremendous player and I was very happy to see that he got nominated but I do think that this is a correct decision. I don’t think that he deserved to win.

I don’t know if it’s correct or incorrect, I didn’t have a vote or anything like that, but Carlos Mortensen also didn’t get in and he’s been nominated quite a few times already. There are people who are outside of North America who are saying, oh it’s the American Poker Hall of Fame, because apart from Daniel Negreanu (who is Canadian) there are no non-Americans in the Hall of Fame.

That is a fair point.

It is a fair point. Poker is a worldwide game.

But I don’t think it is fair to use this. Look, I hope Devilfish gets nominated in the future. He definitely doesn’t stand a chance next year. We all know who that one is going to. 

Phil Ivey. He’s obviously getting in, which means there’s only one last spot.

I don’t think there’s any point in nominating anyone else next year.

Well no, there are two people who usually get in. Phil Ivey is basically a lock for that one. The Poker Hall of Fame is something (especially to the poker media) that matters, I’m sure to poker fans it matters a lot, and it matters to me too. Being a Poker Hall of Famer is an incredible, lifetime type of accolade. I think what has to change are a couple things: The first is something I’ve always been a proponent of.  I think they have to build a physical hall of fame that you could go and visit and see.  It would make it seem more real, not just that this happens once a year. Maybe you get a pin, or something like that.

That would be absolutely amazing.  And it’s a tourist attraction, that could only help build the community.

One thing that I love is that can you imagine if you could go right there and pay in tournament chips to enter?

That would be amazing! That is so cool and so funny. A buy in to go and be inducted to the Hall of Fame.

A buy-in to the Poker Hall of Fame.

Alright, we’re copyrighting that idea. You can contact us at and leave a comment down below.

One thing that I thought that ought to change, and I think it’s for the better, is the nomination and voting process could be a little more transparent.

We don’t even know how it’s held.

It’s shrouded in secrecy. The people that get a vote are people from the poker media, and living members who are already in the Hall Of Fame. But, how many votes, and who’s voting for what? I think that more transparency, or maybe make it more like the baseball hall of fame, where you have 125 people who get to vote, I don’t know – Something in order to bring about the necessary changes.

That way we can be a part of it, so that we can understand the process.

And please fans of course.

Absolutely, but it’s important that we can look at it and understand that it’s fair. When you have the secrecy, no one know what’s going on behind the curtains.

Again, congratulations to Jennifer Harman and John Juanda. Way to go! One place where poker fans can vote, and do have a say is our bracket competition for the most memorable televised poker hand.

We are down to the Championship!

This is it! We are down to the final two.

And, Robbie, let them have it. Who’s in the Championship?

One of them is Ernest Wiggins vs Phil Hellmuth at the Big Game. That beat out the Tom Dwan bluffs Greenstein and Eastgate off their hand in High Stakes Poker. And on the other side, I’m pretty disappointed that the Mizrachi vs Jarvis hand didn’t advance.

Lost! We can use the phrase: They lost! I don’t want to point fingers at anyone, but there was someone who publicly came out from the very beginning saying that the Royal Flush was going to beat the Quads. I don’t know who this guy is.

No idea who he’s talking about.

That’s right, Robbie, who did you think was going to win?

I may have selected the Grinder but unfortunately, it didn’t work.

That’s okay, Robbie, I got you a present. I’ve got you a very special present, specifically for today. Put it on, put it on. Robbie “The Grinder” Mizrachi. We are going to interview  Robbie “The Grinder” Mizrachi. How do you feel with this horrific loss to have your dreams and aspirations shattered like a vase being thrown off the Empire State Building?

Who are you? Who are you dude? Like, seriously. Oh, Mr Hellmuth!

My name is Phil Hellmuth and I’m here to tell you that of course you’re going to lose that hand. 9 times out of 10, you’re going to be losing that hand.

And you would know about losing hands, as you lost 3 times out of 4.

You know, statistically every time I go in I’m like 100% of the time always ahead as Phil Hellmuth.

Oh, interesting. Well there’s no bracelets for winning this competition.

I do a great Phil Hellmuth impression. All I got to do is pretend that all the words coming out of my mind are spoken by the poker god.

Or just start going: “Honey! I lost again.” The other hand that Michael Mizrachi will endorse (the one that beat him) is the Justin Phillips vs Mabuchi hand where the Royal Flush beat the Quad Aces. It’s an incredible hand. Those are our two finalists and this is the chance.

We just need a victory dance!

Victory dance, that’s right.

No, you lost.

Anyway, this is your last chance. You’ve got one week left to vote. The competition ends at the end of November 3rd on Tuesday next week. Gotta make your votes count.

Absolutely. Let everyone know. Share it, tell your friends about it. This is it – last chance to vote.

Of course, and if you’re not going to vote, or if you are going to vote, remember to subscribe to the PokerUpdate Youtube Channel right over there in that corner. Comment, and on the Facebook page, and follow PokerUpdate on Twitter.

And trash talk Robbie for his miserable prediction about Mizrachi going all the way.

We’ll see you next week for the Weekly Burn & Turn. This is Robbie Strazynski.

And I’m Shimi Weiss.

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