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On this week’s episode of PokerUpdate.com’s Weekly Burn & Turn, Robbie asked Shimi to do the opening because clearly he can’t cut it. We’re going to talk about ‘The Duel by PokerStars’ App and then we’re going to go and speak about playing poker under the influence – how good are you at playing poker while you’re drunk? Afterwards we’re going to be talking about tightness at the poker table.
We’ll finish up by talking about Poker Central revolutionizing Poker-TV programming. Stay tuned right after this.
Hello, and welcome back again to the PokerUpdate.com Weekly Burn & Turn for the week of February 14, 2016. I’m Robbie Strazynski.
What the heck was that? No! What the heck! Hi, welcome back to this week’s Burn & Turn! This is going to be an exciting episode. It’s going to be amazing.
Oh my God! Hello?
Hi! It’s going to be the most amazing episode. We’re so happy to be here with you again, week of February 14, 2016. There was Valentine’s Day, there was Presidents’ Day, and now it’s Burn & Turn Day. Thank you guys for tuning in. I’m Robbie Strazynski.
Welcome back. I hope you enjoyed Valentine’s. I hope you got plenty of
valentines and that you weren’t a Charlie Brown this year.
My valentine right here.
It always makes me so sad on Valentine’s Day, every year, not because I don’t get anything but I always think of Charlie Brown and I’m so sad for the guy.
He never gets a valentine and he deserves at least one. Sad. Anyways, let’s get into it.
This is Shimi The Fish, by the way. First topic – a lot of people are talking about it – is ‘The Duel’ by PokerStars.
Yes, a lot of people are talking about it. Robbie threw out a challenge publicly. If you haven’t read the article, this article was written by this guy – Robbie.
Yeah, there were a lot and a lot of grammatical errors there buddy.
What are you talking about?
Okay there weren’t.
No errors. Flawless.
Anyways, you threw out a challenge publicly against me.
Oh, I did! I challenged you to a duel.
Let me tell you something, the second that we could be playing on this system, you’re going down.
I’ve already played.
How did you play?
Well, how do you think I wrote the article?
You’re such a liar!
It’s not available. I heard it’s only available in one country. Where is it available?
There you go.
I speak Norwegian.
You speak Norwegian?
Well, let’s hear it.
Uhm, I don’t really speak Norwegian.
You can’t even fake it!
I can’t, I can’t.
Just throw a lot of consonants and pretend you’re talking the language.
The symbol for boron, right? That’s the Seinfeld joke. Anyway, I really did actually try it when I was at the PCA. Remember when we were at the PCA?
Oh, you’re such a jerk.
So I was at the PCA and they had this media-exclusive event where they let us try it out. They demonstrated it and they told us it was a brand new thing.
No way! Did you play against any pros?
Well, one second! First of all they presented it, and they explained what it was. It’s a mobile app, and they had Chris Moneymaker and Fatima Moreira de Melo – I’m sorry if I’m botching your name.
Say that 10 times fast.
Fatima Moreira de Melo. Fatima Moreira de Melo. Fatima Moreira de Melo.
You said 10 times! Okay, I could have kept going. So they were demonstrating the product and it was really cool. It’s completely separate from PokerStars as a client. It’s a brand new mobile app – phones only, no tablets – and it’s sort of like a turn-based playing app.
It’s like Zynga-fied Poker. Or like Words With Friends.
It’s not Zynga-fied. You can play for fun, which is cool, but it’s a head-to-head competition.
And you honestly think you’re going to be able to beat me?
I know I’m going to be able to beat you.
I’m going to destroy you. Do you know why?
Because it’s not for real money.
Because you only get 10 hands.
I know how to play those terrible hands because I’m playing them all the time. I’m going to walk right over you.
Yeah, I don’t know. I’m not so sure. Maybe in Norway.
There you go.
Anyways, so it’s a really cool app and it’s a brand new product. Something like this has never really existed before. What I like about it is – and I mentioned this in the article – that the fact is you don’t always have the time to grind a tournament for a couple hours.
Right, this lets you take a bit of a break and come back.
Just like a Scramble With Friends or a Words With Friends, you take your turn and then it pings your opponent. So maybe I acted on 3 of the hands, and then it’s your turn to act. You could be at different points within each hand.
And you honestly think you have a chance against me?
Your history with Scramble With Friends and Words WIth Friends against me has not been that good. If I recall, the last time we played Scramble WIth Friends, Robbie’s excuse was: “My fingers are bigger than yours.”
He’s right. I forgot about that.
It’s been a while.
My poker is certainly bigger than your.
No, don’t take that the way you’re taking that. I’m referring to the game.
There’s no other way to take it. Let’s go guys, that was the way.
It’s definitely a very cool app. It’s available in Norway, and I think it’s available in the UK right now, and maybe by the time it airs it will be available worldwide.
That would be amazing.
Very cool. So you can play for free, you can play for small stakes, and basically what you do to play against someone is add them as friends, they accept your friend request and then you can go ahead and challenge them to a duel.
It’s going to be very sad when this happens. I’m telling you right now, Robbie’s going down.
He’s not going to be accepting friend requests from people that he knows he can’t beat.
If you’ve been finding me on HoldemX – I know that we’ve got a few people who have said “Shimi The Fish has been on HoldemX” – beware, I am the fish on that platform, and I will be the fish on this platform as well.
@ShimiTheFish on Twitter.
That’s right. Hold on a second. ‘Shimi asks funny questions that Robbie can’t answer.’ What?
That’s the script. You’re not supposed to read the script to the people.
‘Funny questions that Robbie can’t answer.’ Robbie, how do you do a K-Turn in Norway?
That’s not a question related to the app.
Okay, that’s not in my notes.
I guess you don’t have any funny questions, but look, interact with us. We’re @PokerUpdate on Twitter, on Facebook look for ‘PokerUpdate,’ and you can always send a question to firstname.lastname@example.org to our editor, Shira Steiglitz. If you’ve got any questions about The Duel by PokerStars app, that’s what we’re there to tell you. If you want to know how not to play great Duel by PokerStars…
…You should be talking to me.
That’s right. Getting into our second topic, we’ve got a really fun article to go through.
I think there was a pair of articles actually, about poker under the influence.
I think the first one was through legal substances, and the other one through illegal substances.
We’ll call them less-than-legal. Questionably legal.
Although, I’ve got to tell you, have you ever played poker drunk?
I’ve never really been drunk.
Really. I’m trying to win a bet.
Alright, so, I have. There was a really crazy night one time, I drank half a glass of wine and I was completely plastered.
Who drank the other half?
I think it’s still there, but anyways, I showed up at the game and I don’t remember anything from the game except for the fact that I came back home with ten times more money than I showed up with.
Yeah! Now I’m not sure if I won that money or if I stole it. I mean, I don’t remember anything from this game.
So you ended up with 10 whole dollars?
Yeah, well done. But seriously, I decided that I really should be playing drunk. I am much better under the instrument. So I actually tried it again recently and it was a pretty good performance.
Was this one of the legal, or less legal substances?
This was one of the legal substances.
I see. Don’t do the illegal substances!
If you go through the article, some of these things can really help loosen you up, make you feel a little more focused as long as you don’t over do it.
if you’re taking a glass of wine. Most people can have a glass of wine and it won’t really affect them.
Not this guy.
Not me, obviously. Even someone who’s pregnant is allowed to have one glass of wine.
No, my wife is!
There you go, Robbie didn’t know.
I didn’t know.
And just so you know, anyone who’s not watching this episode is not going to find out that my wife’s pregnant. The only way they’re going to know..
..Is if they watch this episode. Another reason to watch the PokerUpdate Weekly Burn & Turn.
Absolutely. But you know what? If we’re already talking about playing under the influence – playing drunk – then we’ve got a few games that we would like to teach you that are great to play if you are plastered out of your mind.
Wait, those crazy games?
Crazy games, ready? We’re going to cut away right now and we’re going to show you a few games.
But I don’t know these games.
Well, you’re about to learn them. Let me tell you again, make sure that you are under the influence before, during and definitely after.
Cincinnati. Cincinnati is a variation of Texas Hold’em where instead of having two pocket cards, each player is dealt five pocket cards. The board is dealt out like normal Hold’em and you can make a hand with any combination of the cards on the table, and the cards in your hand.
Wooo! 4 aces baby!
You might think that you are strong, but remember any hand is possible at any point in the game. ‘Strongly recommended to play under the influence.
S.H.O.P. S.H.O.P is a fun poker corporation that incorporates Texas Hold’em and Omaha High. It stands for Simultaneous Hold’em and Omaha play. At the start of each hand, each player is dealt a total of 6 cards. They then must split those cards into a two-card Hold’em hand, and a four-card Omaha Hi hand. Once the cards are split, you deal out a flop, a turn and a river. You are not permitted to change cards mid-hand. At showdown, the pot is split between the best Hold’em hand, and the best Omaha hand. We recommend that you play this game as pot limit, unless of course you’re a fish.
Benny’s Game. Benny’s Game deals out like 7 card stud hi/lo, however every 2, 3, 7, 9 and one-eyed jack is a wild. If you are dealt a 4, you receive an additional face down card, and if one of the face down cards is a 4 you may pay 1 big blind to turn it face up and receive an additional face down card. Any wilds that are dealt out on each street must be purchased for the price of one big blind times the amount of wilds that have been dealt out thus far. If you opt out of buying a wild card, it could be purchased by any other player still in the hand. If a 3 is dealt out then you must match the pot to keep the wild card, and if you opt out of buying it and a different player buys it, then your hand is folded. At any stage of the game you may replace one of your face up cards for one big blind and you may replace one of your face down cards for two big blinds – this however can only be done twice per hand. If in the end you still have not managed a perfect hand, then you would pay two big blinds to receive two additional cards from a separate deck on the condition that you declare both high and low.
What the F**k is this game?
Weren’t those great games?
I’m going to take that as an applause. Robbie is happy! Robbie loved those games. Robbie wants to play those games at our next home game.
Well, I’ll play S.H.O.P because I’m really good at it.
Yeah, not the last time, buddy.
Well look, what I will tell you and all you guys watching the Burn & Turn, those are games that are great and fun but it will not work if you’re tight.
Oh! I like the segue. That was a great segue!
Alright, thank you!
It was a tight segue. Ah!!
Oh, that hurt man.
Okay, tightness. What do you know about tightness in poker?
You know what? If you’re at the poker table and you see a guy who’s playing tight..
Like Allen Kessler?
Yeah, exactly. Have him as the next Name That Pro. Anyways, if you see a player sitting across from you and he’s playing tight, that’s the time you need to learn to take advantage. That’s an opportunity.
Of tight players?
To take advantage of tight players. Absolutely, because they’re going to be folding a lot more hands, a lot more often.
Right, they’ll try to sneak into the money or something?
We just spoke about this in one of our previous segments. I don’t know if you remember when we were talking about going out before the bubble.
Was I there?
You were there.
On the bubble?
Yes, you often go out on the bubble! As someone who’s getting ready, as you’re approaching the bubble, most players will tighten up because they want to hit the payout. So that’s the opportunity to really take advantage. And how do you spot these players, Robbie? How do you know who’s the tight guy at the table?
Well if Allen Kessler’s there, it’s him. Love you Allen.
There you go!
Look, sometimes tight is right – I’ve got to say – for example, if you satellited your way into the World Series of Poker you didn’t pay $10,000 for your seat, and the money bubble is approaching, sometimes tight is right. You want to make sure that you get that $15,000 payday.
You know, that’s a very good point. That’s a much bigger payday than for someone who bought-in.
Like you said, usually if you’re a pro or an experienced player, you can spot those players who think $15,000 is a lot of money and are going to play tight.
You know what’s another good time to tighten up? If you’re the big stack at the table, especially in a cash game..
What would you know about being the big stack at the table, Shimi?
Yeah, you know what? Keep talking man. If you’re the big stack at the table and you’ve got a lot of winnings, you’re going to want to tighten up because you don’t want to give those winnings back. All of a sudden, everyone’s looking to double up through you. You’ve got those winnings, you’re going to want to seal those vault doors.
There you go, that’s how you make it tight.
Ah! I see what we’re doing. That was unintentionally awesome.
There you go! How else would you know if someone’s tight at the table?
Maybe they’re wearing tight clothing for example.
If their face starts turning blue because all of a sudden they’re very tight collared! Oh God, that wasn’t so good.
That wasn’t so tight.
You know what? A little tell that you could actually have for someone who’s being tight – especially at cash games – is that there’s always a player at the table who, when you’re getting ready to go home or a few games before the end, will count out the chips that they bought in with.
Oh! Shimi does it all the time.
So if they bought in for $200 and they’re sitting on a stack of $250, what they’ll do is they’ll separate the $200 – basically broadcasting to the table, saying: “I’m okay to lose this $50, but I’m not willing to put any of these chips in.”
You know what you need to be doing there? Raise $51.
That certainly works with the tightness.
That would definitely work. How about you? How would you play against a tight player?
I don’t know. Most of the players I play against are pretty loose, especially at the home game. I can’t think of anyone that just sits there Phil Hellmuth style waiting for the hand.
I hear you. Most of the players I play against on Zynga are also pretty loose.
That’s right, that’s my area of expertise. I’m Shimi The Fish, what can you expect?
Speaking of Mr Hellmuth, he is one of the stars on the Pokerography show by Poker Central.
That was an awesome segue by Robbie Strazynski.
You are on your game today.
I’m on my game today.
Thank you, it’s tight.
Oh, moving backwards!
We just love Poker Central. 24/7 Poker. I mean we actually live right here, within the Weekly Burn & Turn show so we’re here 24/7, but for the rest of you, if you want 24/7 poker, Poker Central is the place to find it on Amazon Fire, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Two, Xbox Three, and I think Xbox Four even.
Is there an Xbox Five?
I don’t know, I’m not sure, but I’m sure that if there will be, then Poker Central will be there.
It’s really exciting. There’s so much material to be watching and there’s so much that someone like me, the fishes out there, can learn.
The fish, I think.
No, fishes. Swimming with the fishes? Okay, we’re not going to talk about it.
It’s a great network that they have and it’s available on a whole bunch of devices. Also, I think in Ohio they struck a deal with one of the big cable companies there. So, if you’re in Ohio, then you can actually turn on your television.
There’s a reason to be living in Ohio! No?
Our three Ohio viewers just tuned out.
Oh gosh. Delaware is happy that we’re moving off of their backs.
Delaware! Shout out to Delaware. But yeah, they do some great stuff and Pokerography is just one of the great shows that they do. It’s sort of like a ten-part documentary-style series. You’ve got Erik Seidel, Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu, and Antonio Esfandiari. We are certainly name-dropping but the fact is that all of those people, and more – Jennifer Harman, Jason Somerville, Vanessa Selbst, and NOT Shimi Weiss – made pokerographies out of them and Poker Central’s doing a great job. Who wouldn’t want to watch this kind of stuff?
Too bad, you know. If I had watched the Daniel Negreanu segment I might have gotten the Name That Pro last week.
Ah, Name That Pro!
It’s really good material. This is an opportunity to really connect with the professional players and know a little bit more about them.
About their backstory. I mean, a lot of times you tune in and you see them in a tournament, you see them playing the big cash games, but what brought them there? What happened 20 years prior? When did they get into poker? What’s their family life like? That sort of thing.
And definitely for the fans out there, it’s very interesting material. It’s very interesting to learn about the people you aspire to be like.
For example, I think I’m the eleventh person they’re going to be making a pokerography about.
Totally. You’ve heard it here first. Actually, his phone is ringing right now.
We are waiting. It’s time! Name That Pro.
Oh baby! You do know it’s on you this week, right? Robbie what’s that? Oh snap, got the clues!
There you go. Are you ready? Name That Pro, baby, and Robbie is in the hot seat! I will remind all of our loyal viewers that the last time Robbie was in the hot seat, he did not get the answers.
I did get it!
He did not!
I got it when we ran it twice. It was Athanasios Polychronopoulos.
No, there was one after that. You missed it.
Oh, it was David Peters.
That’s right and you missed it, even though you watched the Aussie Millions.
But now I know who David Peters is.
Yes you do.
And now you guys do too. I hope that’s one of the things you learned from the Name That Pro.
I’m one to really talk big but I have yet to get it.
Yeah, but you know how to talk big, Shim.
Anyways, the spotlight is on Robbie though. Let’s have it. Go, give me a pre-flop guess.
I’m going to guess Michael ‘The Grinder’ Mizrachi.
No. Nice try though. Okay, clue #1, are you ready?
Of course, I was born ready.
Here we go. Clue #1: This pro is a former tournament chess player and has an Elo Score of 2162.
Is it Jennifer Shahade? No it is not.
NO! What’s an Elo Score?
I don’t know. I did check to make sure I was pronouncing it correctly. If I’m wrong then it’s Shira’s fault. We have to play chess sometime.
Whoever picked that first clue knew I was going to guess Jennifer Shahade, who’s known for playing chess and poker.
It was a good guess. Still wrong though, nice try. Here we go. Clue #2: This pro has a solid online poke resume, winning at least one SCOOP title, and once winning the PokerStars Sunday Million in 2011.
And plays chess.
That is a look of bewilderment. Not filling us with a lot of confidence, Robbie.
He’s a pro?
Or she. Nice try there.
I’m going to guess Jeff Sarwer.
Good try, good try. Still wrong though.
Okay, don’t laugh.
You’ve got one last chance buddy. The last one is actually going to be a good clue. It might not give it to you, but it raises your chances. Are you ready?
Here we go. Clue #3: This German Pro has four 7-figure scores in his career including a 5th place finish in 2014 in The Big One for One Drop for $2.05 Million. I know for a fact that you watched that final table.
All those Germans. I get them confused.
If it helps you out, I’m pretty sure he’s the #1 German Money Earner.
That does help me.
Do we have it? Oh my gosh, does Robbie have the answer?
Wait, wait. I’m going to go with Philipp Gruissem.
No! Good try, Robbie. Want to throw out another guess? We’ll run it twice.
No. Want to run it three times?
Four times? Five times? The correct answer was Tobias Reinkemeier. Good try though.
Oh, Tobias Reinkemeier!
Outstanding player. I obviously did my research on him and saw a little bit of how he plays. He’s a lot of fun to watch. He is the #1 German Pro on the all time money list.
I’m sorry I did not name that pro successfully.
That’s alright. We can’t always win, and some of us can never win. It still does not mean you shouldn’t try. Well done, Robbie. This brings us to the close.
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