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Welcome to our weekly Weekly Burn & Turn, where we discuss the latest poker updates published during the week.

Vidcast for the week of: Sunday, October 18, 2015

The One Where There Were No Shout-Outs to Give

Thank you so much for watching.

If you would like to read the articles discussed in our vidcast, please see the links below!

(1:05) Why the WSOP is the Most Talked About Live Poker Tournament

(4:32) 3 Mixed Game Poker Tips that Don’t Suck

(8:46) PokerStars Sets World Record for Largest Tournament

(11:44) The Most Memorable Televised Poker Hand of All Time FINAL FOUR!

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On this episode of the Weekly Burn & Turn we’ll be talking about why the World Series Of Poker (WSOP) is the most talked about live poker event. We’ve also got some mixed game tips for you, plus a world record at PokerStars. Also, we’ve reached the final four in our contest for the most memorable televised poker hand, right after this.

Welcome everyone to the Weekly Burn & Turn for the week of October 18th, 2015. I’m Robbie Strazynski.

And I’m Shimi Weiss.

We’re happy to bring you some more poker entertainment.

Yes we are.

We are paid to be happy to bring you more poker entertainment.

No, the happy we do for free. We’re always happy.

So let’s get started with this week’s show. We have a number of great topics to talk to you about as you saw at the top of the show. 1st Topic: Why is the WSOP the most talked about live poker tournament?

I think it’s pretty obvious. It’s Norman and Lon. Props to you guys. Seriously, I love watching you guys.

Yes, they definitely make it very interesting and very entertaining.

It’s all about presentation. I mean look, when you want to put on a good show that’s what you’re going to remember, the presentation. They do a very good job of it. The network does a really good job of it. Everyone knows about it, everyone remembers it. It’s something amazing.

Those one liners are definitely interesting, and entertaining. It’s the type of thing you talk about at the watercooler the next day after you watch the show. That’s definitely one really great reason that it’s the most talked about event.

Okay, how would we break down our relationship? Which one of us is Norm, and which one of us is Lon?

I’m definitely…one of them. 100% one of them. I think I’d be more the Lon McEachern perhaps. I don’t have the mustache – the Norman Chad mustache.

I could get the mustache.

The poker-stache!

But you know, I would throw a “bamboozled” every now and again.


Yes, wamboozled! Jeez, I’m just not up to par for it.

Not enough wamboozle at the PokerUpdate headquarters.

We’ve got a lot of learning before we can reach you stage.

Besides the wonderful presentation that Norm and Lon do there are a number of great reasons why it’s the most talked about event. The fact is, the WSOP is pretty much the only tournament series where you can play all forms of poker, not just Hold’em, not just your standard Omaha. They have bracelets for a whole bunch of different disciplines.

And the bracelets really mean something. Every poker player, who is a poker player, wants to get those bracelets. That’s the prestige. It’s getting that bracelet, you know?

100%. You can win it in 7 card stud, you can win it in 7 card stud hi/lo, they had a dealer’s choice event – every form of poker. Lots of great things to appreciate about the WSOP. That’s why everyone wants to be there, it’s because everyone’s there. It’s the biggest crowds, the biggest rooms, and you play with the pros.

Any player could sit down with the pros and be on an even footing, or think they’re on an even footing.


It’s a great opportunity. You get to sit down at a table with some of your poker idols and play with them at the same table, and play in the same hands and try to outplay them.

Definitely a bucket list item for me, to go to a WSOP someday. I’m sure for you too.


Also, The Colossus that they had at the previous World Series, $565 buy-in for a chance at a bracelet. That’s insane, they had 22,000 players at this event. Of course everyone’s going to be talking about it. The hallways were bursting with people. They’re going to go home, to their home-game buddies and talk about it. That’s why people talk about the World Series. We love the WPT, we love the EPT, all the PTs – we love them, but the WSOP is far and away the one that people talk about the most.

That’s where it’s at.

So definitely check out the article by James Guill. By the way, I don’t know if anyone noticed, we update a lot of things here at PokerUpdate, and we got new pens.

Check it out, that’s right. They’re much more professional.

Moving on to the next topic: Three mixed game poker tips that don’t suck.

That don’t suck!

Love the title. Kudos to James Guill for another great title. Great article. Not going to get into the tips as much. What I want to talk about is that I think it’s just great to promote mixed games.

Absolutely! You get a chance to really test your borders and try something new. You don’t have to be stuck on Texas all the time. Let’s go Robbie, we’re going to try that. What does H.O.R.S.E stand for? We’re talking about mixed games, so why is it called HORSE?

Okay. H is for horse. I mean, H is for Hold’em.

H is for horse! We are on track! Let’s go.

H is for Hold’em. O is for Omaha. R is for Razz. S is for Stud. E is for Stud Eight or Better.

Yeah, they really wanted it to spell out horse, because an E does not stand for Stud Eight or Better. You also have Omaha Eight or Better, it’s called Omaha Hi/Lo.

That’s true. Then it will be HORSO.

They really didn’t want to call it HORSS.

I love the idea of the mixed game. Like at the WSOP, like I said, they have this Dealer’s Choice event, you have 20 different games. I play in a mixed game every week with my Dad and his group and I just love it. Every single hand the action changes and you never know what the next game is going to be. It completely keeps you on your toes. So, one mixed game tip that I have is: Go play in the mixed games! They’re incredibly exciting. They always say that Hold’em is a solved game but there are plenty of other games, like Badugi, Badacey, Badeucy, right? Razzdugi, something we started playing, and I’m not making this up, it’s a really game, no?

I don’t believe you. I think you’re making this up on the spot.

Razzdugi! I love Razzdugi, it’s a combination between Razz and Badugi.

Right, well for sure playing in these games my tip is to make sure you know what you’re doing. I’ve made the mistake of sitting down at a table and suddenly playing one of these mixed games and if you don’t know the rules of the game, then you don’t know what you’re doing. It’s better to sit back and watch how the game is played out, you don’t want to end up making a mistake that’s going to cost you a lot of money.

No penalties for just sitting back. You don’t have to throw in your money there, sit back, toss your cards and pay attention to what’s going on at the table. Even more than that, on a basic level, in the casinos when they spread mixed games they have the little plaques there and every time the game switches after every orbit, or every half hour, they switch the plaque. Sometimes you may catch yourself playing the wrong game. Not a good thing. Tip: Pay attention to what game is being played.

Absolutely. Especially in online poker because you might not necessarily see where the game is listed, and when you move from Razz to Seven Card Stud it won’t go so well. Oh, that is the absolute best, when you’re playing across from a player and as you watch them playing you realize they don’t know what game they’re playing, and it’s like “Dude, you think my 3 Kings are not going to win but you have another thing coming right now.”

“I HAD A FULL HOUSE!” It’s Razz! Also, at the home games as well, if you’re not sure what the rules are ask what game you’re playing, ask for the rules. Definitely a good tip and of course James wrote a whole article about other different mixed game tips. Shimi, I think we should do some shoutouts.

Absolutely. We would love to give shoutouts to everyone that retweeted us.

That’s it. Nobody.

That hurts.

Nobody retweeted us. It’s so easy!

I’ll tell you what, the first person to retweet us is going to get not one, but two shoutouts! One from Robbie, one from me.

Okay, on camera?

On camera! And anyone else who retweets us with anything mildly entertaining, we’ll see if we can give you a shoutout.

We’re @PokerUpdate on Twitter, I’m also @CardPlayerLife – you can follow my own personal Twitter account – shoutouts, we like shoutouts, you like hearing your name, we like engaging with you. We’d like to hear from you. You can also look for the PokerUpdate page on Facebook, you can email us at [email protected]

We’re on all the social medias.

We’re on all of them, like Facebook and Twitter, and YouTube of course. Next topic. We did a very cool infographic about PokerStars. PokerStars recently held a tournament series called Common Cents. All it cost was one cent to buy into this opening event of theirs – 253,698 people! What’s that, Shimi?

This is my gold star that I get because, believe it or not, I placed in 315th place.

Oh!! Out of 253,698?

No, unfortunately I am in the former Guinness World Record for online tournaments. I was in the 225,000 tournament, but this was 315th place. Now that’s actually pretty amazing, there were only 314 people that outlasted me in that particular tournament.

Not bad.

And let me tell you, Phil Ivey wasn’t one of them. Daniel Negreanu? Not one of them. Robbie Strazynski? Not one of them.

No, I do not have a gold star next to my name, online or on my PokerUpdate branded shirt.

It was actually my claim to fame, I’ve got to tell you, as a former world record holder with 315th place.

I have to ask you, Shimi, do you walk around with that? Because you just seem to have it handy.

I cannot comment on that.

Interesting. Well, it’s a really cool infographic. We talked about a number of different comparisons, like 253,000 is three times as many players as this, or that. Check out the infographic, but there are a few things that we didn’t put in the article that we thought would be very interesting. Did you know that 253,698 is more than the number of followers that Phil Hellmuth has on Twitter. He’s got like 230,000 or so.

I did not know that!

It’s also just a little bit more than the number of subscribers we have on the PokerUpdate YouTube Channel.

Just a little bit more?

Just edged us out, but you can help us build that.

Help us get a few more subscribers so we can pass that number.

So click that subscribe button right there. Or maybe a little over to the left. Okay, we’ll wait.

Click. Good job.

Okay, great! Also, 253,698 is about half the number of ex-wife jokes that Norman Chad makes on the WSOP broadcast.

It’s also about the number of ex-wives he has.

And, finally, 253,698 is precisely the number of times that Shimi has nodded while saying “absolutely.”

And only half of those took place in the third episode. That’s right.


Absolutely! I need to come up with another exclamation. Guys, help me out here, what is a good word that I can use to agree? All I’ve got is absolutely.

Absolutely! Let’s see some comments in the comments section. Anything to do with 253,698.


I want to see that many comments. We’ll move on to our final topic to discuss. We’re down to the final four of our contest. Round 4 of the most memorable televised poker hand bracket. Before we talk about it a little bit, let’s check out our brand new commercial.



Alright, we’re down to the final four.

The final four!

I called the quad aces!

Did you?

I did, you don’t remember? That was the last episode. I said quad aces.

That was the most shocking hand right?


That’s right, and I called it.

I’ve got to tell you, that was the biggest upset. It was Justin Phillips with his Royal Flush that beat the Quad Aces of Mabuchi.

It doesn’t really get better than that in terms of an upset.

Disagree. No, that’s what I’m saying. The upset was that it won over the Jean-Robert Bellande elimination hand at the World Series. I was shocked. I mean, that was one of my favorites. I really thought it would advance into the final four.

Alright, I’ve got a confession to make. I wanted the Quad Aces to go up and I actually voted for the Jean-Robert hand because, I’ve got to tell you, every single time that straight falls it just makes me so happy inside.

Well look, I guess, just as in poker, he made it but not far enough. So sorry, Jean-Robert.

But that one line, you know, “Did I tell you, Sir, that you look very handsome today?” And every time I remember seeing that live and saying to myself “Get a seven! Come on, get a seven!”

Sarkis Akopyan I believe was the one that beat him there. But, it did not advance to the final four. We have that in the exciting bracket, which was Justin Phillips with the Royal Flush. That is the representative for that category. We’ve got the funniest, where Phil Hellmuth in The Big Game gets sucked out on by Ernest Wiggins.

That’s the one where they ran it four times, right?

Four times and I believe Phil lost 3 out of the 4, right?

You know, I’ve got to give him credit though. I would have blown up a lot worse than he did.

I think there’s a lot of stuff we didn’t see on camera. But what we did see on camera, is absolutely one of the most memorable and that’s the reason it advanced to the final four as the funniest hand among them. We’ve also got the most impressive. That was Tom Dwan where he managed to beat out Barry Greenstein and Main Event Champion Peter Eastgate on High Stakes Poker. Incredibly impressive. I voted for that.

It was a good bluff.

Unbelievably well done, and you hear also the commentary by Gabe Kaplan and AJ Benza, going “wow, that was the most incredible,” and you know the fact is, he did an amazing job. Those are three, and our fourth finalist (and this, I believe, I called as my favorite to win) Matt Jarvis vs Michael “The Grinder” Mizarachi, is the most exciting.

Such a roller coaster!

Back and forth!

The hand is just, wow!

Really unbelievable. So, we’ve got four finalists, it’s the final four, this is your chance. You’ve got one week.

You’re going for Mizrachi?

Mizrachi all the way, and you know what, let’s hear from Hellmuth, Tom Dwan (maybe he’ll appear out of nowhere and push his hand a little bit), let’s hear from you, Michael “The Grinder” Mizrachi. Let’s see what you think. Push your followers a little bit. Maybe you have The Most Memorable Televised Poker Hand.


That brings to a close this week’s episode of the Weekly Burn & Turn. Be sure to subscribe so we can get up to that 253,000 mark.

Be sure to vote. We’re looking forward to the finals.

We’ll be talking about the finals next time. We’re down to four, we got updated pens – very happy – and that’s it. I’m Robbie Strazynski.

And I’m Shimi Weiss.

And he finished in 315th place.

315th place! That’s right!

See you next week.

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